NPR’s Scott Simon talks with Minnesota Supreme Court docket Justices Anne McKeig and Sarah Hennesy, about their new novice all-judge band, The Cheap Doubts.
SCOTT SIMON, HOST:
In Minnesota, one novice rock band guidelines Supreme. It is an all-judge band known as The Cheap Doubts.
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)
THE REASONABLE DOUBTS: (Singing) Nicely, they mentioned you was excessive class. Nicely, that was only a lie. Yeah, they mentioned you was excessive class. Nicely, that was a lie.
SIMON: Minnesota Supreme Court docket Justice Anne McKeig started the band, and he or she joins us now with a bandmate, Justice Sarah Hennesy. Justices, thanks a lot for being with us.
SARAH HENNESY: Thanks for having us.
ANNE MCKEIG: Thanks for having us.
SIMON: How did this concept come about, Justice McKeig?
MCKEIG: Nicely, it is one thing that I’ve wished to do for some time. I’ve at all times had a love for music, and I additionally acknowledge the stress of our jobs and consider that there is loads of gifted folks on the bench. So I simply despatched an e-mail out to the judges in our state, bought a unbelievable response, and the concept simply was born. And did not actually assume rather a lot about it. We simply jumped in and began working towards, and it has been an incredible expertise.
SIMON: Justice Sarah Hennesy, what’s the lifetime of a decide like?
HENNESY: Nicely, you understand, I used to be a district courtroom decide for 12 years, and I have been on the Supreme Court docket now for somewhat over a 12 months. And one factor that each of these positions have in frequent is we’ve folks in our courtrooms who’re coping with very tough moments of their lives and who’re in ache in your courtroom, and you’ll’t assist however tackle a few of that ache. And if you make tough selections that make their lives tough, that impacts you as nicely. And so this venture has been a means for us to make use of music, to make use of artwork, actually to heal.
SIMON: What are among the songs that you simply play, Choose McKeig?
MCKEIG: We have now, as you possibly can think about, a variety of music tastes. However we do loads of cowl songs. We’re performing some Mellencamp, some AC/DC, throw in some Beyonce.
SIMON: I bought to let you know, I wasn’t anticipating that. However go forward, sure.
(LAUGHTER)
MCKEIG: I imply, once I say a variety, it is a variety.
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THE REASONABLE DOUBTS: (Singing) It is simply the identical outdated, standard day after day. Any individual get me a sunshine getaway.
SIMON: Any authentic works, or is it form of arduous to rhyme oh, yay (ph), oh, yay, oh, yay?
MCKEIG: It is somewhat arduous to rhyme that.
HENNESY: Sure, it’s. It is humorous that you simply ask, although, as a result of it’s one thing that a number of of us who’re within the band have been in bands in our former lives and have written music up to now. And a few of us are very gifted musicians. And they’re , I believe, in writing some originals. In order that is likely to be the subsequent factor we transfer into.
SIMON: I am afraid the tune – nearly the one one about judges I might consider is – you understand “Trial By Jury,” Gilbert and Sullivan?
HENNESY: I do not know that.
SIMON: Oh, you guys are such rockers, aren’t you? You actually are.
(LAUGHTER)
SIMON: It is…
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “TRIAL BY JURY: WHEN I, GOOD FRIENDS, WAS CALLED TO THE BAR”)
GILBERT AND SULLIVAN: (Singing) Once I, good buddies, was known as to the bar, I might an urge for food recent and hearty.
SIMON: (Singing) However I used to be, as younger many barristers are, an impecunious occasion.
What do you assume?
HENNESY: Are you free on September 26?
(LAUGHTER)
SIMON: Oh, my phrase. Do you put on black robes on stage?
HENNESY: Completely not.
MCKEIG: However we do put on black.
SIMON: You will have black T-shirts – proper? – I believe I’ve seen, proper?
MCKEIG: Positive, why not?
SIMON: Yeah, positive, why not? However why?
MCKEIG: Nicely, for one factor, it makes me look thinner, which is strictly why I might put on black.
HENNESY: Nicely, we do not put on the robes as a result of actually the being within the band and doing this on the facet is one thing to get us out of the judicial mindset to do one thing actually totally different, you understand, transfer from one facet of your mind to the opposite.
MCKEIG: Yeah, I imply, it actually has been lifting the spirits, I believe, of, as you possibly can think about, a particularly aggravating job, and in addition simply recognizing all the nice work that our colleagues do after which attempting to make a connection, actually, with the general public. It isn’t like folks usually are in courtroom as a result of it is, you understand, an exquisite expertise. It is normally a disaster time of their life, and it is not one thing that folks wish to be part of. And so I believe this permits us to attach with the general public in a means that simply normalizes us as people. That is most likely the most effective issues about it.
SIMON: So let me ask you each, what do you want these of us exterior the chambers actually understood in regards to the lifetime of a decide?
MCKEIG: I might ask that folks perceive that we’re simply that, which is human. We make errors. We do our highest. It is a very critical job. It’s one which all of us are honored to partake in, however that this can be very aggravating as a result of we actually wish to get it proper, and once we do not get it proper, the implications might be large, and we acknowledge that, and that weighs on us on a regular basis. It isn’t a job you could go away on the finish of a day and go residence and never take into consideration. And that is a heavy burden, one which we settle for knowingly. However it will be good if the general public might additionally simply see us as common folks.
HENNESY: I wish to ensure that everybody acknowledges that, in being a part of this band, this isn’t one thing we’re doing throughout our hours once we must be working. It is at all times on the weekend, and it is an incredible outlet for anybody on the market who has a tough job that they are coping with. I am unable to let you know how a lot bringing music into my life on the weekends has actually helped me to course of that.
SIMON: Are you able to inform us how bailiffs or clerks really feel about it?
MCKEIG: Folks that we all know are clerks – they’ve beloved the enjoyment that it is bringing and the optimistic response that it has been bringing as a result of once more, being within the courts, we do not at all times hear that facet.
HENNESY: Yeah, I believe they recognize – I do know our clerks not less than actually recognize coming to seek out out that, you understand, we’ve lives exterior of the courtroom, that we’re not at all times critical, that we’re not at all times speaking about instances, that we’ve one other aspect of our persona as nicely that’s attention-grabbing.
SIMON: Minnesota Supreme Court docket Justices Anne McKeig and Sarah Hennesy. They’re members of The Cheap Doubts. Justices, thanks very a lot, and rock and roll on.
HENNESY: Thanks a lot. It has been enjoyable speaking.
MCKEIG: Thanks on your curiosity.
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)
THE REASONABLE DOUBTS: (Singing) Everyone needs to take somewhat likelihood.
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